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eve1woman dublin, Dublin Ireland

Ladies (and gentlemen) what would your opinion be of a man who swore blind on his life, his mother life, his kids life etc,. that he had had the snip and yet he fathered a child. A child he refused to support emotionally, physically and financially. He denied his son in a court of law at the age of 5yrs when summoned there on a maintenance charge. He was ordered to pay support (in his absence) after the tests proved he was the father and to this day 10 years on he still has not done so. What he has done is persecute and manipulate the mother all the way. (It is not a nice story.) Not only denying her emotional, physical and financial support he has denied her the peace of mind to enjoy her beautiful son. He has taken away her peace and her joy repeatedly for the whole time.

What is your opinion on this type of man??????????






j_goose71 Over there USA
How long before getting the gal pregnant did he get snipped?

Until you "clean the pipes", pregnancy is still possible. Just a medical FYI.

However, if he has been medically proven to be the father and he isn't paying support, he's a dillhole.

I'd say let him go his own way, let the law catch up with him, and get peace of mind raising the child alone as best she can. It'll be hard, I do it everyday, but the father obviously isn't one that SHOULD be around if he's an asshole....JMO.
Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
eve1woman: Ladies (and gentlemen) what would your opinion be of a man who swore blind on his life, his mother life, his kids life etc,. that he had had the snip and yet he fathered a child. A child he refused to support emotionally, physically and financially. He denied his son in a court of law at the age of 5yrs when summoned there on a maintenance charge. He was ordered to pay support (in his absence) after the tests proved he was the father and to this day 10 years on he still has not done so. What he has done is persecute and manipulate the mother all the way. (It is not a nice story.) Not only denying her emotional, physical and financial support he has denied her the peace of mind to enjoy her beautiful son. He has taken away her peace and her joy repeatedly for the whole time.

What is your opinion on this type of man??????????



One word:


An ass!!!!!!!!!!!


OOOOOPPPPPPSSSSSSS...that's 2....rolling eyes very mad rolling eyes



shipoker55 St. Petersburg, Florida USA
what did DNA prove. If he is not the father...he shouldn't pay a dime.

A paternity test would remove all doubt....and guarantee a spot on Maury Povich



eve1woman dublin, Dublin Ireland
j_goose71: How long before getting the gal pregnant did he get snipped?

Until you "clean the pipes", pregnancy is still possible. Just a medical FYI.

However, if he has been medically proven to be the father and he isn't paying support, he's a dillhole.

I'd say let him go his own way, let the law catch up with him, and get peace of mind raising the child alone as best she can. It'll be hard, I do it everyday, but the father obviously isn't one that SHOULD be around if he's an asshole....JMO.


It turns out he lied, he never did have the snip



diogenes Longview, Texas USA
In the U.S. a guy like that is running a strong risk of Jail time in most States.



eve1woman dublin, Dublin Ireland
shipoker55: what did DNA prove. If he is not the father...he shouldn't pay a dime.

A paternity test would remove all doubt....and guarantee a spot on Maury Povich


He denied his son in a court of law and insisted on having a paternity test done as he is a man who thrives on conflict.

The results proved him to be the father.
He was to return to court to settle the maintenance charge. On the day of the case he rang the mother to imform her he was not bothered and would not be attending the court whereby the mother was awarded the maintenance. When hearing this he told the mother that she would not get a penny out of him.




shipoker55 St. Petersburg, Florida USA
as in all things...there are three sides to every story. I am sure his version is different.

his side her side and the truth. I wouldn't pass judgement on this person, till I saw a paternity test. He may well, not be the father!!



eve1woman dublin, Dublin Ireland
How long before getting the gal pregnant did he get snipped?

Until you "clean the pipes", pregnancy is still possible. Just a medical FYI.

However, if he has been medically proven to be the father and he isn't paying support, he's a dillhole.

I'd say let him go his own way, let the law catch up with him, and get peace of mind raising the child alone as best she can. It'll be hard, I do it everyday, but the father obviously isn't one that SHOULD be around if he's an asshole....JMO.

That would be fantastic, that is no problem for the mother. She has done it all on her own and is proud and happy to do so. It is not a chore, he loves her son. The problem is, the father has never let her alone. He has tormented and persecuted her all the way. She is too kind natured for her own good and has encouraged and supported a relationship between father and son even without being supported.

It is a long story. I would just like to know the general opinion of a man who could do such a thing.

Not only would he not support his son, the biggest problem for the mother was the fact of the stress she had to endure. She is angry that she was not left in peace to enjoy her son.



GypsyGirl_1963 Anaheim, California USA
Living this horror myself, I know it hurts that a father doesn't want to be accountable for his actions and the only one that suffers in the end will be his son.

Life is to short to worry about the father when or if ever he'll be financially responsible or even emotionally connected is a waste of time. Let him be, and move on...be the the best mother you can possibly be and raise that little boy with love and compassion and as an adult he'll realize that you were there and never gave up on him, this will be the greatest revenge when his father sees how wonderful of a son you've raised.

There will come a time when he'll be wanting to be accepted by his son and that will be a decision your son will have to make if he wants his father to be part of his life after all that he's not done for him. hug




eve1woman dublin, Dublin Ireland
shipoker55: as in all things...there are three sides to every story. I am sure his version is different.

his side her side and the truth. I wouldn't pass judgement on this person, till I saw a paternity test. He may well, not be the father!!





He is the father
He knew it/knows it
She knew it
The tests proved it.

That is a given and not what is in question

I asked for an opinion on a man who is capable of such behaviour.

This is not a judgement nor is it personal as you don't know the two involved.

I just ask for an opinion on such a situation




shipoker55 St. Petersburg, Florida USA
If the tests prove he is the father...he is liable. He should be hunted down and forced to pay.



GypsyGirl_1963 Anaheim, California USA

The problem is, the father has never let her alone. He has tormented and persecuted her all the way. She is too kind natured for her own good and has encouraged and supported a relationship between father and son even without being supported.

Not only would he not support his son, the biggest problem for the mother was the fact of the stress she had to endure. She is angry that she was not left in peace to enjoy her son.



This sounds like harassment...can't she get a restraint to have the abuse stop through the courts?



eve1woman dublin, Dublin Ireland
GypsyGirl_1963: Living this horror myself, I know it hurts that a father doesn't want to be accountable for his actions and the only one that suffers in the end will be his son.

Life is to short to worry about the father when or if ever he'll be financially responsible or even emotionally connected is a waste of time. Let him be, and move on...be the the best mother you can possibly be and raise that little boy with love and compassion and as an adult he'll realize that you were there and never gave up on him, this will be the greatest revenge when his father sees how wonderful of a son you've raised.

There will come a time when he'll be wanting to be accepted by his son and that will be a decision your son will have to make if he wants his father to be part of his life after all that he's not done for him.


He will not leave mother and child in peace.
He is the one who needs to move on. The mother has wanted that for the longest time, but somehow he always managed to worm his way back into their lives only to cause turmoil and upset again and again.

He declares he loves the child and rants and raves about same.
Yet he will not have the child without the mother ie he will not take the child unless the mother goes along. He rings and torments the mother and shouts about the love he has for "his son" and yet he will not support or take him off unless the mother goes. The mother wants him to stop. It's been going on for too long now and the mother is worn out.
mbcasey North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA
eve1woman: Ladies (and gentlemen) what would your opinion be of a man who swore blind on his life, his mother life, his kids life etc,. that he had had the snip and yet he fathered a child. A child he refused to support emotionally, physically and financially. He denied his son in a court of law at the age of 5yrs when summoned there on a maintenance charge. He was ordered to pay support (in his absence) after the tests proved he was the father and to this day 10 years on he still has not done so. What he has done is persecute and manipulate the mother all the way. (It is not a nice story.) Not only denying her emotional, physical and financial support he has denied her the peace of mind to enjoy her beautiful son. He has taken away her peace and her joy repeatedly for the whole time.

What is your opinion on this type of man??????????


You used the word "man" describing this person. He is no man at all.

The mother needs to go forward without this "man" so her children will never be affected and learn how not to be a father by a gutless coward.
mbcasey North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA
eve1woman: He will not leave mother and child in peace.
He is the one who needs to move on. The mother has wanted that for the longest time, but somehow he always managed to worm his way back into their lives only to cause turmoil and upset again and again.

He declares he loves the child and rants and raves about same.
Yet he will not have the child without the mother ie he will not take the child unless the mother goes along. He rings and torments the mother and shouts about the love he has for "his son" and yet he will not support or take him off unless the mother goes. The mother wants him to stop. It's been going on for too long now and the mother is worn out.


She needs to go to court and get a restraining order. Then she needs to go to court to demand this "man" gives up any rights to the child.
dcj22 Somewhere, South Dakota USA
You can't take away someones peace and joy unless they allow it to happen.


Enjoy the child and forget the father. It's what I did and my life is very peaceful without him.



shipoker55 St. Petersburg, Florida USA
I am either going to get slammed or ignored for this, but I'm used to it.






I am sure this person knows her options concerning the law. If she hasn't done those things, perhaps she is secretly enjoying the attention. Many people seek attention, even if it is negative attention. This is why some stay in abusive relationships.

If this person, hasn't taken the legal steps to ensure her comfort zone as well as the child's, there MAY be some other issues at play!

She appears to have all the legal paperwork in hand to have him arrested, have a restraining order placed on him, and/or have his paycheck attached to ensure, the financial well being of the child. A court can attach his check. But the mental abuse spoken of can be handled by the police



eve1woman dublin, Dublin Ireland
This sounds like harassment...can't she get a restraint to have the abuse stop through the courts?



It is harassment.

She is a pacifist and hates conflict.

It took her over 5years to go to court in the first place to seek maintenance thinking the father would at some time leading up to that come to his senses and do the right thing by his son.


She went to the courts as he had pushed her to the edge with stress yet again. She knew in her heart of hearts that she would never get any money from him. She just hoped to win the case and prove to him he was wrong doing what he was doing and hoped that he might leave her alone ie give her a break, but he never did.



eve1woman dublin, Dublin Ireland
diogenes: In the U.S. a guy like that is running a strong risk of Jail time in most States.


Thanks for your input. diogenes




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